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Friday, June 03, 2005

A customer returns...

A short while ago I mentioned a company that took over a customer's domain and web hosting and then phoned me up to get themselves out of a mess. Well, I say to get themselves out of a mess, but really they probably hadn't realised they'd messed things up for their newly acquired customer ignorance being a wonderful thing. ;) So this morning I get a call from a staff member of the ex-customer saying he can't collect mail from his old email address. Now, what the new "media" company had done was use web-forwarding to point people who went to the old website to the new one they'd developed. No problem with that. But what about all those contacts of the company who still had the old email address - well tough! No provision had been made to forward on any mail sent to the oold domain address. It wouldn't have been a big job to sort out, but there you go. I suggested to the staff member that he ask the new "media" company to set-up the old domain to forward any mail addressed to his old email address so that it was delivered to his new email address. I did point out that I'd got the impression they didn't really know what they were doing, so not to get his hopes up. Anyway, I get a call later to say, "No, the other company didn't have a clue" and how could this person notify all his contacts of his new address. I sorted him out and duly received an email, later, notifying me of his new email details. Now, I wonder how many people will update their records? Or will the company lose business, because the contact can't get through to the... Sales Manager? So, the moral of this tale? Make sure you're dealing with a company that understands simple business issues when it comes to your email otherwise there's no telling what business you may lose.

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Wednesday, June 01, 2005

Beating domain name registration companies at their own game

I could write pages and pages of stuff about "difficult" domain name registration companies, but I won't today, because I'm far too busy. But I do have a smile on my face, because one of the most awkward companies to deal with when it comes to transferring domain names away from them, UK2.NET, has just been side-stepped thus avoiding considerable delays and their 'sour grapes' transfer fees. How? By using Nominet to change the IPSTag without involving UK2.NET at all. OK, it cost £15.00 + VAT, but it meant the domain got transferred to our management system in a few days as opposed to the few weeks my client had spent being totally ignored by UK2.NET. I call that a result. When I have more time I'll return to the subject of UK2.NET as they are such a wonderful example of what can go wrong when you deal with a 'cheap' company that actually turns out expensive to deal with.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Richard

Good move using nominet to sidestep the domain management process for .co.uk domains.

In the case of the hosting company concerned, your readers might like to know that they use joker.com as their registrar for TLDs. Going direct to joker also eases the pain of domain transfer & they are a "breeze" to deal with. They don't make a transfer charge either, unlike Nominet.

John Kirk
www.johnkirk.net

6/17/2005 03:39:00 pm  
Blogger Richard Williams said...

Tis True, John, but using Nominet should be a last resort where the domain registration agent is proving unco-operative.

6/29/2005 05:49:00 pm  
Blogger Graham Smith said...

Perhaps I might share one of my own experiences?

I am trying to renew a domain name which we originally purchased through CIX, who were taken over by Pipex a couple of years ago.

I wanted to add the domain name to our account at 123-reg. Unfortunately although CIX and 123-reg are apparently all part of Pipex, I have not had a lot of luck in transferring the name over from a CIX tag to a 123-reg tag.

According to the Pipex website at http://www.pipex.net/products/domains/ I needed to call 0900 22 11 123, which cost me 50p a minute to be told I needed to telephone Pipex at 0845 077 2537 who, in turn, told me that Webfusion now handled all Pipex domain name issues and I should telephone 0115 917 0000, selecting option 3 from the menu. There I spoke to an equally obliging gentleman who told me that domain names with a CIX tag are dealt with by the people on 0870 909 8181, yet when I called this last number the person there said they did not deal with CIX domain names and suggested I email domainrequests@pipex.net, which I duly did, setting out the difficulties I was experiencing and asking for help.

I received a prompt response, for which I was very grateful. However the response read:

"The good news is: I am the person who does the transfers of domains

"The bad news is: I can't do transfer unless I have a filled in Domain Name transfer form in front of me.

"Please can you email customer-relations@pipex.net for a form and return it to them? they'll then forward it to me and I'll get it processed asap."

[*FX* sound of hair being torn out]
Aghh!!!

12/23/2005 10:13:00 am  

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